Gearbox problem: axes and sprockets

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Gearbox problem: axes and sprockets

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Hi there,

Hope some of you have the knowledge and speak english :)


for my TDI I am building a gearbox. Right now I have a 3M gearbox and a 2V gearbox open for parts. I cannot change 1st and 2nd gear because they are one-piece with the primary axle.

I can swap gears 3 and 5. No problem. So the heavy 5 into a 3M is easy for my 32bTDI gearbox.

Problem is that the sprocket of the 4th gear does not fit the secondary axle. The 3M axle (for 4,111 drive) has a flat surface, the sprocket is pressed onto it. The 2V axle/sprocket has extra teeth on the axle/sprocket. So the sprocket is pressed and hold into place by the teeth. I need the 4,111 drive, so the axle must stay.


How to solve the problem?

The 3M axle has number: 013 409 143 G. The 2N has 013 409 143 B. These are both 5speed and 4,111 (37/9) drive. Could it be that the 2N gearbox also has the extra teeth for the 4th gear sprocket?? Why would the partnumber be different?

I have a 2N gearbox, but I don't want to open it up to check :) I want top open it up when I'm sure I can use the axle! (And install the primary axle for better 2nd gear!).


Who has ever opened up a 2N gearbox and knows how the 4th gear is fitted on the secondary axle? Or who knows where I could find pictures of the inside of a 2N gearbox?


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Re: Gearbox problem: axes and sprockets

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Nobody ever opened up a 2N gearbox??

Who knows where to find pics of a 013 409 143 B axle?
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Re: Gearbox problem: axes and sprockets

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Hi,
you are writing about a 3M and a 2V gearbox, and in the last post you wrote about a 2N one ? 2'V' is a typo then ?

This should be in the catalogue that may not be mentioned here, but unfortunately i do not have it.
Maybe someone else can chime in -

Hat jemand eine Exp.-Zeichnung des 2N Getriebes, wo die Achse mit der Nummer 013 409 143 B drauf ist ? Im ET... oder sonstwo ?

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Re: Gearbox problem: axes and sprockets

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Well as i can see the 2N also has the 013 409 143 E instead of B (maybe later version) so also picture of this could help.
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Re: Gearbox problem: axes and sprockets

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I am writing about 2N!

*I took gears from a 2V (3,4,5)
*I put them in a 3M
*4th gear does not fit the secondary 3M-axle
*So maybe the secondary 2N-axle is what I need.


The 3M axle has flat surface for 4th gear
The 2V 4th gear has teeth to fit the axle

Now I must find a secondary axle for 37/9 final drive, and right fitting for 4th gear!
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Re: Gearbox problem: axes and sprockets

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The pignon is on the right. Left from it is a flat surface for the bearing. Left from the bearing you see a surface with teeth, here the 4th gear is fitted.

On the 3M axle this surface is flat :(

I don't know what part number the axle on picture is. I just have to be sure before I open up my 2N or buy a new set from VW. (they won't let me see it without buying...)
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